Pokémon Go

Move over Groudon, here comes Kyorge

Well, technically Groudon should be out for a few more days. His last day is on January 15th according to Pokemongolive.com

I wrote a little blog about Groudon when it came out.

Kyorge is here

Announced to appear today January 12th until 1 PM PST February 14, 2018. One would assume, that Rayquaza would be next. Personally, I can’t wait for Rayquaza.

First let us deal with Kyorge. Kyorge is a water type pokemon. Typical wisdom woudl say Electric and Grass types will be your best battlers.

Thanks to reddit user, RyanoftheDay, we have his info graph for best Kyorge counters.

Kyorge can use Dragon Tail, or Waterfall for it’s Quick Move. 3 Charge moves are Blizzard, Thunder, and Hydropump.

It looks like Raiku (Thunder Shock + Wild Charge), and Sceptile (any + Leaf Blade) are your best against all movesets. Though Sceptile might not last too long.

Against Hydro pump, you will need Exeggutor or Venusaur (Any + Solar Beam). Another option might be Dragonite (dragon tail + Not Hyper Beam)

Blizzard counters are Groudon (Any + Solar Beam). Nedium attacker is Ho-Oh (Extrasensory + Solar Beam)

Thunder has Groudon (Any + Solar Beam) again, with Exeggutor or Venusaur (Any + Solar Beam)

There are alternatives of course. Like Jolteon and others.

My time to raid

Of course as soon as I heard, I was scanning the local discord group to see if anything was out there. It seems like Groudon are still possible too, so you kind of have to show up and wait.

Report came in that a level 5 hatch was happening at The Great Mall. It is a sponsored Sprint gym as well, and EX-Raids have happened there numerous times. I was going to go, then I wasn’t. Finally I decided to get over there before the hatch time.

I made it with about 5 minutes to spare. So many people there. Eventually the hatch happened, and it was Kyorge.

Next the people started breaking into groups. Valor over here, Mystic over there, Instinct was going public group.

The count down timer is ticking, and I am looking through different pokémon. I couldn’t decide what to try out, so eventually just settled on whatever.

Here is my raid:

I had heard from some others that it was hard to catch, and they were not wrong. First, Kyorge is really far back. Already that makes it tough to land Excellent curveballs. Kyorge also moves from left to right, and attacks from time to time. Normally, I wait for the attack animation before I throw.

I had 10 balls to throw. It took my 4 to catch it. CP 2296. 87% 14/11/14. Not too bad.

I did do a second raid at another EX location, but failed to catch it. One guy did attempted to catch it in AR mode (Only on newer iphones), but he thought he bugged it. I have seen some people reporting that it is much easier to catch doing the AR Mode.

Now get out there

Time to get out there and get Kyorge. Plus, Pokémon GO Community Day will be coming January 20th. It’s a great time to play.

Groudon, now out in Pokémon Go for a limited time

It was just yesterday, when people wondered what was next for Legendary raids Pokémon Go. We had the extension of Ho-Oh. That ended at 1pm (PST) on December 14th. Many expected Groudon to show up right away. When he didn’t, many people in my local discord channel were shocked.

Enter Groudon



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Earlier today, it was announced on Pokemongolive.com.


Groudon, the Ground-type Legendary Pokémon originally discovered in the Hoenn region, is now appearing in Raid Battles around the world!

I quickly logged onto my local Discord group to see that others, like myself, had already reported the news.

The catch, Groudon is only available till 1:00 p.m. PST on January 15, 2018. Still plenty of time to get out there and Catch’em.

Time for Research

As with any of the raid bosses, I always do a bit of research. I like to find out the weaknesses, and what other people are using to battle.

I played through all the Pokémon games in the past. I knew things like Groudon is a ground type Pokémon. Things are not always 100% the same in the orginal games, and Pokémon Go.

Places I like to check are sites like pokemongohub.net. They usually have a good breakdown for counters to use. Suggestions like Gyrados with Waterfall/Hydro Pump.

Another good resource is TheSilphRoad. A very good resource for all things Pokémon Go.

From there you can find things like what the 100% CP is for Groudon Top 50 Groudon CP Table post by puu.sh

A normal 100% Groudon is CP2328. Weather boosted, the CP2910 is your 100% target.

Raid time!

Raids get release. We get reports of level 5 raids popping up in downtown San Jose, but nothing up in the Milpitas area yet. Of course, it wasn’t long before they were all over here too.

Naturally, I was out getting lunch with the family when the first wave came in. I was watching discord, and seeing if there was someplace I could get to.

Finally, I saw one coming up about 15minutes from me. I got there before the timer. One group showed up just as it hatched. They said they tried to do one raid with 8 people, and was unable to beat Groudon. No idea what levels they all tried with.

Now it was time. there was a big enough group to go for it. I believe we had 16 or so people, and more on the way. We beat it, and I caught it. CP2274 80% 12/11/13. Not too bad, and I was glad to have caught one on day 1.

I was going to head home after that, but stopped off to grab a few Pokémon. I noticed in discord that another raid was about ready to hatch. So off to that one I went.

I got there a little after hatch time, and one group had already started. I was a littel worried, but soon plenty of other showed up. We finished that one, and I caught that Groudon as well. CP 2296 87% 14/11/14.

Others from the group were heading off to their “lucky” gym to raid. One guy had gotten 3 EX raids from that gym, so pretty lucky to him I guess. I didn’t want to head off that far. There was a closer raid going to happen in about 20 minutes. So I headed there next.

I was early, and there were a few Pokéstops around. I grabbed those, and tried to gauge if we had enough people around to do the raid. I posted in Discord to see if people were coming.

Have no fear, we had plenty show! I had forgotten to try recording my previous raids, but this one I did record it.

Once again, I was able to catch this one. CP2323 98%! 15/14/15. I almost got that 100%.

I went home after this. Figured I would call it a day. I couldn’t believe I had caught each one so far.

A bit later, I went out with my son to catch a few Pokémon.  As luck would have it, I saw one more raid being formed up at a nearby Starbucks. This one has had EX Raids at it as well. My son hadn’t raided Groudon yet, so off we went.

Once again, plenty of people even with it being later on in the evening. There was enough that people did a split group. Ours has 10. We beat it, and I caught it again. CP2276 78% 15/10/10. Unfortunately, my son was unable to secure Groudon. So we will have to try again.

I went 4/4 today, so I will probably have the next batch all run from me.

Final Thoughts

I was glad to see I got to use my small army of Ho-Ohs for this. The fight seemed good enough. Once again, with server lag, dodging is hard to do. Catching Groudon did seem more difficult. Ho-Oh provided it’s own difficulty by being so close. Groudon is farther back. He doesn’t jump. His attack can be harder to time. I mostly just spun and threw when I thought he wasn’t going to attack. Different from other Legendaries where I would wait to throw until after they had the attack animation.

I would imagine we would see Kyogre as the next Legendary after Groudon. The one I am truly excited for though, is Rayquaza.